questions on giving
26 10 2006
Update: Sunday, 29 Oct 2006 - I have been very busy over the weekend, and apologize for the delay. I hope to get with my teacher in the next day or so, and I am looking forward to the next post on Giving. Thanks for you patience. 
Background:
Below are some questions being assembled from the previous post. These questions are, in part, the result of my teacher (Sensei) actively participating in my blog for the first time. So this may be a unique opportunity to ask a teacher some questions.
The questions below have evolved out of a series of recent posts on the Art of Giving. The Art of Giving is comprised of four principles that create a sequential circuit which, if you run it correctly, results in a constantly building or increasing value. Now, out of correct application and running of this ‘formula’ can emerge superconductive Giving - something I am wanting to learn more about.
Newcomers may want to read through those posts and comments to get some background. Sensei entered the discussion as a result of the first post, Giving:
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Here are some questions gleaned from comments to the last post - some are over my head to answer, and I intend to present them to my teacher. Thank you so much for your great questions. Hopefully, this can turn into something fun, challenging and stimulating, and hopefully you will find value and benefit.
Questions:
- - Is it really that complicated to give back to our source? Do I need to be told how and in what order? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose?
- - What are Sensei’s principles for giving back to the Source?
- - I was going to ask if you had further thoughts on being careful with a giver. Can somebody take more than is given and hurt the giver?
- - The write up on static principles versus their part in a dynamic process to connect deserves comment, but I don’t know if I can grasp it enough to ask one. Maybe try to explain the dynamic process and when a specific static principle is used in description, link to an old blog on that principle. Are these processes steady state? Or is it more biological with things happening at varying rates? Feel like I’m shooting in the dark here.
- - I will add: Why is the order so important, and what is the nature of the overall sequence that creates superconductivity?
Feel free to add further questions or comments. Also, feel free to change or modify via comments (I will adjust the post accordingly).
Additional questions and comments:
- - Clarity on some terms would be welcomed and differentiating between them would also be helpful. I too am interested in the order and why that is important in creating superconductivity. Further, I always think clarity is heightened when an example is provided, if possible.
- - What is the potential of a fully functioning superconductive circuit?
- - Can we create superconductive Giving through our blogs, and do it in the sense that we and others are inside an actual deeper experience and connection versus only mental or intellectual understandings?
- - You’ve made some really important points, which are very useful for where I am at the moment. Sensei’s distinction between the ‘principles’ and the ‘machine’, in particular. As an aside, many years ago a long time student of these matters pointed out to me - in the casual, almost ‘throwaway’ manner of someone who has been with a real teacher - the importance of ‘priming the pump’. This is a different point, but it is connected with the art of giving, and I think with Sensei’s point of offering something back. The issue here is that if one wants to receive, one needs first to put the machine in motion by giving. My own master makes another point, related to this, which is that in order to make more money, we need to spend more. In fact this is really about all giving and receiving - if we want to channel more energy or to have more wisdom, we have to allow the ‘flow’ to become greater. Once again, a New Testament parable comes to mind - that of the ‘talents’. Keeping our money in the bank, not sharing our energy or applying our knowledge effectively inhibits the operation of the ‘pump’, and nothing flows.
Hi Mark,
Wonderful to see this post that is so generously offered for sharing of your learning and developing process. I am grateful to you that you have opened this up to your readers who can only benefit from the gift.
I think I would add that clarity on some terms would be welcomed and differentiating between them would also be helpful. I too am interested in the order and why that is important in creating superconductivity. Further, I always think clarity is heightened when an example is provided, if possible.
Again, I offer my gratitude in advance for opening this post, and the previous ones, to questions as we all learn and grow and develop in our connections and our personal Truth.
I want to thank you too Mark for
taking the time with us in helping
us understand. these are important
questions and I’m looking forward to
understanding.
(((Hugs)))
love the picture. One of my favorite
movies. Every time i see the movie
i see something new that i didn’t pick
up the last time.
awww… thanks, Kathy and (((Hugs))) back to you too.
serenity - thank you. I hope we can all grow this together, and have some fun along the way.
I view this as far less an opportunity to do something with my own blog, and much more as an opportunity for all of us to kinda ’sit at the feet of a master’ and learn how to step things up a notch or more. I have seen and experienced first hand many examples of Sensei’s applications of the Art of Giving, and can testify to a.) having undergone many, many substantial and deep personal experiences and improvements as a result and b.) to the amazing, life changing potential these principles hold.
I think blogger is down, i can’t get to my blog. I was having trouble with blogger yesterday! such
a bummer.
Kathy - I have noticed numerous problems accessing Blogger over the last several days… what a pain. Maybe you should consider moving over here to WordPress. They backup your site one time per minute, and have two, not one, server centers: Dallas and California. I have never had a problem from them, and the environmment is far more feature rich for both users and especially for the blog owner. WordPress, after just a small learning curve, is also far easier to use.
Mark, I had pingback issues. The pingback link above is dead. Please delete it and I’ll do it again.
Mark yeah maybe i will look into wordpress
…blogger is working right now. I noticed
your wordpress does not need to log in.
whereas Kay’s blog and cole’s blog need
log in to comment. just visit Kay’s blog.
nice blog.
Hi Mark, She bids you all a good day!
I guess growing together and learning from each other is giving that something special from within. It does become continuous as we become stronger? Dynamic … superconductivity! It makes a beautiful vision in my mind.
Hugs for you all. :o)
Mark,
placing a fellow blogger site … perhaps when one reads we will find great inspiration …a strength of faith and love. A remarkable and profound writer. :o) trinity stumbled upon her site and was honoured to have the opportunity to read her thoughts.
sharing it with you now.
http://iwasbornthisway-allison.blogspot.com/
trinity - well, I hope we can all learn something from this. I’ll check out the link. Thanks.
Mark,
What wonderful thoughts, and I look forward to the continued discussions and opporunitiy to participate. Great dialogue here for the past couple of weeks. My gratitude to you for opening this all up and for hosting such important topics for us to reflect upon.
Peace, joy and LOVE flowing to you, and all that visit this place so rich in thought and heart and so open to the flow of the Spirit.
Good morning Mark
She sends you sun beams and rainbows to fill your room as you dream.
Just to say thank you firstly for a wonderful post you delivered these last few days. A little bit each day keeps the doctor away. Secondly for sharing a moment on Allisons blog. Which I think you found a very strong person.
Thanks again.
will pop in later to see your new post.
trinity
serenity - thank you for once again stopping in; I always enjoy your insights, reflections and contributions, and I think all who visit here share in my sentiments.
trinity - thank you for the link to Allison’s blog; she has a very good heart. I hope others will see her on my blogroll and pay a visit.
Wow - am I behind! Mark, you are doing it! Because I have worked with Sensei as well, I can shed a little light on the issue “I was going to ask if you had further thoughts on being careful with a giver. Can somebody take more than is given and hurt the giver?” because I have seen it first hand, in fact I do it regularly.
Sensei gives 24/7 and his students, including me, take from him regularly without giving back. That is somewhat to be expected when you start out because you are clueless. But the more towards center you move, the more responsibility you have. Now you KNOW and you can’t act like you don’t. When you do act like you don’t, you are hurting your giver. It is extremely painful when the giver gets slapped in the face with their giving. When you see the truth and know in your heart of hearts it is the truth and you turn your back on it you hurt the giver. So they have to dig even deeper to find another way to show the truth so it is better accepted. It is exhausting to the giver yet they do it anyway because their purpose is giving.
Can you take more than is given? I know you can take and take and take until the giver’s energy is sapped. Then they need down time to recharge. But they do recharge and just start giving again. However, if you don’t advance, they may elect to focus their giving on a more worthy acceptor. Someone who gives a little back. Someone who will run that circuit that has been discussed and bring back something of higher value than what they started with. Even if it is a smidge, it is enough to recharge that giver.
As Mark has indicated, Sensei can be very direct - very direct. But he is also ecstatic when you get even the smallest improvement and showers you with praise - it is worth the discomfort of the directness.
I don’t mean to speak for Sensei, but this is what I have observed. I have seen his energy get sapped and I have seen him recharge and pop back.
Thanks, Gretchen - some nicely observed points. Something I would like to add, although I come from an altogether different ‘tradition’ to yours, is that it is important not to identify oneself as the ‘giver’ (I’m talking particularly about giving ‘energy’ here, although in truth all giving is of energy in some form or another). If one makes oneself a channel (I wish there was a better word!), then the resources of the Source that one can draw upon are infinite. But if one is giving from what one believes is one’s ‘own’, then there is a limitation. One analogy that strikes me is to compare giving money with giving love - we can only give as much money as we have; we’re not connected (at least, in my case I’m not!
with an infinite Source. But there is no limit to the amount of love we can give. Before my second son was born, I worried that I loved his brother so much I wouldn’t have any love left for him - but, in due course, I was able to find at least as much love for him too! My mistake was to think of love as if it was money - a finite resource, with a limited capacity for replenishment.
Hi James. I agree wholeheartedly! And that is the difference between the charletans and true teachers. The charletans think THEY are the source, true teachers know they are conduits for the Source.
However, even the true teacher is limited by the human body. That body can only run the Source for so long before it needs replenishing. So, in that sense they are the giver.
I have watched Sensei give nearly to the point of exhaustion. He regularly works with my husband who has some pretty severe medical problems. I have observed him on numerous occasions doing energy work for HOURS. He steps away from his issues (yes, he is human with his own issues) and lets the Source through. In this instance, he is very much the giver. He is giving that moment of his life, his body, over to the Source so It can do It’s healing. If he didn’t give of himself for that, the Source would not come through.
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